Sunday, 14 June 2009

Muslims Hate India ???

Assalam



Someone from Granger, Indiana reached Jalpari on the post “You Hate India??”, searching for “ Muslims hate India” on google…
I was actually planning to start studying for my univs that start on 23rd.. but well, I wudn be able to study until I let my fume off…
So, my dear…firstly, u r goin to be a ‘male’…alrite?
Now, there are three possibilities I can think of.
1- You are neither an Indian nor a Paki….

In that case…. Lemme tell you … no, Muslims do not hate India… and wen I say Muslims, I mean the Muslims who LIVE in India and not the Muslims who “have-many-friends-who-are-indians-and-many-who-are-pakis-but-in-any-case-they-themselves-are-not-Indians”… nor do I mean the Muslims who “are-going-to-marry-an-Indian-and-so-know-EVERYTHING-about-India’s-culture-and-Her-People”….nor do I mean the Muslims who “have-a-paki-husband/wife-who-has-told-her/him-bout-the-plight-of-indian-muslims”

I have learnt it, the hard way, that a large share of the world Muslim population hates India….thanks to the Green Banner Nation next to us. They believe that the creation of Pak implies that the Muslims in India were suffering…. And so.. the Muslims who stayed bak are all grave-worshipping fools and they are defying the Command of God by putting up with atrocities. In short, India is a majority non-Muslim land with a minor group of people who CLAIM to be Muslims but newaz… who are total fuckers…who don’t deserve being in the UMMAH…meaning .. India basically does not have Muslims.. so screw India..!!
Then there are people who are not as harsh as the above mentioned group, in that, they don’t throw us out of Islam.. they keep us in Islam and use it to serve their own purpose….These are the people who get up each morning and chant a hundred thousand times “Indian Muslims are discriminated against.. Indian Muslims are discriminated against….” To make themselves believe that yes…India is a shit country… shitting all over her Muslims…
And thus, Jinnah was so so rite in creating Pakistan!! Ehh!!

And yes there are some Muslims in India too who fall under the label (truly) of ‘terrorists’. These people undoubtedly hate India, they kill Indians.. and trust me these people are perverts… I don know if these people were wronged by India or not… majority of them are not, I believe. It’s just the same mentality.. the same mentality of believeing that they are the centre of the world… the same mentality that says Muslims shud vote for the parties that give them reservation… the same mentality that says ki Azharuddin was caught up in the case coz he belonged to the minority.. the same mentality that says Bollywood movies shud show ‘ajay’ and ‘vijay’ as terrorists though majority of the attacks in India are by ‘mohammeds’ ‘hussains’ and ‘abdul rahmans’…..the same mentality that makes a man driving a Benz go and fill up a form of ‘OBC’… the same mentality under which the Backward Muslims never try to get rid of such a filthy title becoz it is earning them easy entry into institutions and Govt.Jobs…the same mentality that says Indian Muslims are ‘pulled down’ when one of the most loved Presidents of India, a man with a such a huge fan following, a man whom people look up to for advice, a man who is so wonderful that I run short of words to describe him, Dr. Abdul Kalam is a Muslim..and not a Muslim who dances in Ganesh Pujas, not a Muslim who doesn’t allow burials of the terrorists, not a Muslim who idol-worships…but, a Muslim who Practises Islam.
This mentality plus some brainwashing or maybe the XYY genetic constitution makes you a terrorist. Pathetic! I know! but aren’t there pathetic people in every group… for all we know… we ourselves cud be pathetic in some other way….


Well… whatevs…. To you my dear googler brother, I say that, to know India, to know her Muslims, LIVE in India… you wudn find many average Indian Muslims on the net.. you wudn.. not coz’ Indian networks don’t give internet connection to Muslims, but, becoz’ Indian Muslims, generally, are not all that well off to be sitting and typin on te net all thru the day… alrite?
There are sinners among us… like in every country..
There are saadiqs among us… like in every country…
And like in evry country, the true ones find it difficult to survive!!!
This is the way the WORLD runs…
And it’s not becoz India is anti-Muslim…
Get this fact straight in ur head!!!!
Go to an average Indian Muslim neighbourhood, blaspheme against my country, and if you come out alive….meet me…. We will talk THEN.


2- You are a Paki

Then, my brother.. I only ask you to stop justifying the creation of ur country…Ur country is made… and no one is takin it bak from u..isnt it? we rnt like the others brother…. Keep for urself wat uve got… only.. don’t go on begging for more…
But, if you really are so insecure that you cant help but justify the creation of pak, then, my brother, don’t try to look for things that India doesnt give to Her Muslims… rather show the world wat Pakistan Can and Does give to her own Muslims. Don’t ry to show how a Muslim in India is worse-off… show how a Muslim in Pak is better-off.
If you want to justify the creation of Pak, show the world that in spite of being a Muslim country u have the heart to arrest criminals… Muslim criminals…. Who go bout blasting Hotels in other countries….
Show that you are a country who can stand and run herself properly with sane headed people … who fight the wrong… not the non-Muslim…. Coz the Command of God is to fight everything wrong… not everything non-Muslim.
Be a proud Paki and let me be a proud Indian.
Stop fingering us … if u don’t want ur knuckles broken, one of these days…

i was in this forum where there were Pakis and Indians fighting over the bad condition of Muslims in India… wen the darling Pakis cudn think of much else to counter the Indian side (having mostly Hindus and two muslims), they started the gr8 battle of the ‘Fundamental Right To Eat Beef’…. :D :D
they went on and on bout how it is a sheer INJUSTICE to prevent Muslims from eating beef…………….the hindus were agitated but the two muslims wwere only replying with “ROFL”…..:D :D :D
I wasn’t a part of the drama and was only refreshing the page to see where it was going….
And trust me I too cudn help but ROLL ON THE FLOOR, LAUGHING…..
I mean, seriously yaar…. Eating beef is more important than even the Thayyab…. How cud India be such a vamp!!!! What a pity we didn’t move over to Pak!!! We are being denied the BASIC human right of eating beef.
U see….. we are the CENTRE OF THE WORLD…. Rather… WE R THE ONLY ONES IN THE WORLD….. :D :D

So, my brother .. don’t try to make us look down upon India… coz InshaAllah that isn’t happening…..instead try to make us look UP to Pakistan
Don’t try to make us feel that we were so wrong in staying back in India.. coz inshaAllah that isn’t happening …. Instead show that it wasn’t really wrong for the people to move to the new country.
The day we look up to Pakistan, the day we feel ‘islamic republic of pak’ wasn’t all that bad an idea… that is the day u will have justified the creation of ur country….
And each time u release criminals.. terrorists who are killing people on this side of the border, trust me my brother u r losing big time…. U r moving further away from the ‘justification’ you try to make in alllllll thoseee forumssss……
So, either don’t justify… or justify in the right way..
Show me the good in you… not the bad in me…
Believe me I will love you for all the goodness that you have…
Tab tak..
Aapko aapka mulk mubarak!


3- You are an Indian

a) non-Muslim.
Plz read “1”.

b) Muslim
• who is wondering if other Muslims hate India.. wondering why do they hate India, if they do….. wondering why don’t they hate India, if they don’t…. wondering if wat people keep saying bout ‘Muslims hating India’ is true…..wondering why people blame you for hating India when actually you don’t…. wondering where are you going wrong…



well, like I told…Muslims , Indian Muslims don’t hate India.. coz.. wel.. there is hardly any reason why we shud,,,,, and … people who say that ‘Muslims, Indian Muslims, hate India’, are the people who want it to be that way….these people are as pathetic as the terrorists themselves, people who cant see…
no, you aren’t going wrong anywhere.. sometimes we are forced to take the rap for wat others do… it happens… let people blame you.. that doesn’t change the facts. Don’t be scared to be a Muslim… it’s alrite.. a Muslim shud never fear anyone but God. If they abuse you, let them…. They are abusing coz they are being abused themselves. If they kill you, big deal! You were to die at the end newaz..nai?? but, don’t be bad to the good. God doesn’t like it…

• who himself hates India, and was here searching for like minded people


you sure have realized that I, Almas, am not a ‘like-minded-friend’ of yours… so you better stay there in Indiana, wats the name of the place? Ya.. Granger….
Stay there… we have enuf problems of our own and we don’t need another asshole like you to come and litter India with any more shit than we already have.




Alrite…now speaking otherwise,
A few days bak.. the day I had my last pracs…ummm.. Thursday.. ya Thursday… amuda and I were having coffee and somehow (I don’t remember wat brought me to speak bout it)I found myself speaking of that looonnngg dialogue with another Muslim over how ‘India’ is tolerant or not.. and how ‘nationalism’ (that I was showing) was so so so bad.
Wen she heard bout the thing ,even before I cud say my side.. amuda told me how wrong it is for Muslims to think that they (Hindus) are being unfair… she too mentioned that movies always balance things… (Amuda is my best friend here and thankfully she knows me well enuf not to blame me for all that Muslims did to India.. from the Persian invaders… to Jinnah….and btw.. amuda is Hindu)
Then I told her bout how I kept on banging my head on the wall explaining to this ‘sister in faith’ that ‘nationalism’ has a different meaning in India… if u hav had a bad experience with other countries and their nationalisms.. im sorry… but that is no basis why I, me, myself.. shud doubt India and her beliefs…
Amuda told me that it is very natural for that ‘sister in faith’ to say that way… she reminded me that to understand India, you have to be, just have to be an Indian…she told me that since newspapers are so full of examples of ‘nationalisms’ that are so scary… people will obviously tend to believe that so is the case with India too. And then, in her words, “looking from the outside…they WILL think that way… you cant help it…..You know na ?? wat is and wat is not??? and YOU live here, alle (no?)??let others think India is bad… have ur coffee..”
:) so true amu…
Hindustaniyat is an abstract noun that only Hindustanis can understand…

Sometimes.. it is unnerving how people can hate us…. 80% hate us coz we r Muslims, the other 20% coz we r indians….:D :D that makes us one of the most hated.. or rather THE MOST HATED group of people in the world….
The first 80%.... you know it….the moment they see me writing ‘inshaAllah’…they are like ‘my my here is a terorist’…..and the other 20% People cant digest the fact that I can be happy in India…. They believe that I have to be crying out that India is being bad.. India is being shitty…if I don’t do that prolly I aint a Muslim… im a ‘kiraye ka Musalman’ (rented Muslim) like one of the top leaders in Pak had once told…
This is yet another instance where we can use the word “It wud be hilarious, if it were not so infuriating”

Newaz…
Gotto go now..
Got examz…I don want to be yet another Muslim who doesn’t study well enuf and wen he fails, he says.. ‘oh they screwed me coz im a Muslim’.

Here is a blogpost i found while searching for an image of "Indian Muslim" click on
Indian Muslim
do read it...


Allah hafiz




25 comments:

HRH said...

You cannot blame Pakistanis for thinking that 'some' Indian Muslims are oppressed, when Indian Muslims call on Pakistani channels and say 'We love Pakistan and we love Pakistani cricketers but we cannot say it openly as you know why, we do not support India, we keep praying for Pakistan, we know you are going through difficult times', all this was said in a Pakistani morning show 'Good morning Pakistan' when Shoaib Malik was the guest. When someone says this you can't expect us to think Indian Muslims are damn happy living in India.

I have even read a christian saying he wants freedom from India by the name of Ronald and he says he is from some place called Meghalaya. He says Pakistani should give them ammunition and help them get rid of Hindu terrorism and even talk about Hindu oppression on minorities on international level, and he says Pakistanis are the last hope of minorities. I have even read a Sikh saying when a shoe was thrown at Chidambaram that they would never get rights as long as these Hindu dominated parties stay in power and praised the journalist comparing him with baghat singh.

There are Indian Muslims residing outside India and when they tell you how much they hate it you cannot blame Pakistani for that but yes there are some who are even happy being Indians.

You being an Indian and if you read and hear such stuff written by Pakistani minorities, would you think that they are very happy in Pakistan. Even though we might not know the whole story.

Both countries have problem but both the media would raise the issue more if it happens with a minority residing in a country. Like if an Indian Muslim girl is raped it'll make it huge in Pakistani newspaper and if a Pakistani Hindu gets raped it'll make it huge in Indian newspaper.

But than I have even read 'fake' stuff made up Indian journalist. Like an article was written about the Blasphemy law in Pakistan, the journalist wrote that a Pakistani Christian is getting hanged in Pakistan because he insulted Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) but he only did that after a Pakistani Muslim said wrong stuff about virgin Mary (which I wouldn't write down). The journalost who was a Hindu should have probably researched baout Islam before making up such stuff, you being Muslim do you think a Muslim will EVER degrade Hazrat Maryum, in Pakistan if this sis done even the guy who insulted Hazrat Maryum will get hanged.

Regarding bailing out 'terrorist' who bombs hotels, I get you mean by Hafiz sayeed. First when Pakistan sent 30 questions to India, they replied late and didn't answer a few questions, second time when more questions were asked they sent incomplete answers and unsatisfactory, when Pakistan asked for DNA of terrorists, India sent the SAME DNA, saying it was two 'different' terrorists. Third time when questions were sent they were sent in a totally different language and Pakistan asked India to send it in urdu or english. If India keep delaying the case and doesn't give solid proof than you cannot expect Pakistanis to keep Hafiz sayeed in jail his whole life without any proof.

Around 200 poor pakistani hindus even rallied in support of JuD because they give them food and shelter, YES in support of an organization which Indians think is anti-hindu.

PS: Watch this if you have time what Amaresh misra an Indian said about Mumbai attacks =
http://www.friendskorner.com/forum/f256/crisis-cell-19th-december-2008-a-83652/

HRH said...

One more thing, I think why Pakistanis mostly go about talking regarding Indian minorities is also because of a sort of tit for tat thing... when they see Indians calling them terrorist and a terrorist country they go around talking about the oppression some Indian minorities face and talk about the 60 seperatist movements inside India to show them they have problems too.

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

Ya . . So true and you have heard bout a parsi gal being raped by a Hindu, and you have heard bout a Buddhist being killed by a Hindu and you have heard bout a jain being tortured by a Hindu. .
but somehow you turn into a deaf-mute when you hear bout a Muslim, a Christian, a Sikh and anyone in the minority saying that they HAVE NOT been tortured, HAVE NOT been hurt. . .
you speak of all that you have heard. . . Shud i too start off with all that i hear? From pakis themselves. . .

Ya . . And i also agree that there Are bad ass Muslims in India who forgot the way to Pakistan in 47, stayed back to litter India and leave us , the Indians, with huge chunks of shit. And of course that is what 'Good Morning Pakistan' will air. . . Like i told. . . Justification. . .
there are so many sucker forums where Indian Muslims incessantly go on repeating that all is well here. . . Do the 'last-hope-of-minorities-pakis' hear them? ? ? They go about their gr8 knowledge of the pathetic condition of Muslims in India. . .
its kind of silly sometimes. . .
I ME ALMAS. . am an Indian minority. . . And you (i dont mean YOU. . I mean . . . In general 'you') are an outsider. . . And you are fighting with me telling me that i am living a miserable life. :o :o :o :o . . . Its like im telling that my mom loves me. . . But my neighbour is telling that no she doesnt. . .

the next time you see two people discussing this topic. . . Will you tell them that no . . .thats not the general norm. . . Muslims in India do love India. . . That you had read a blog post by an Indian Muslim who was not even remotely a Paki supporter.?. If you would. . . Thanks for the benevolent gesture. . . If you wouldn . . . I aint surprised. . .

And please brother/sister whoever you are. . . Dont get me speaking bout 'fake' stuff. . . I have read at a certain imam's site . . . Imam or something. . Newaz. . Something religious. . There a 17 year old 'Indian Muslim' **apparently** told of how during the riots his father was arrested and to bail him out his mother and sister had to sleep with police officers. . . This continued for around 8 years. . Without his father's knowledge. .earlier he didnt understand what was happening but one day he SAW it . Later, the policemen told their neighbours too that the women could be used as sluts . . And even the neighbours took advantage of this. . . all without the fathers knowledge. . .
and then. . . All i mean ALL . . The 'last-hope-of-minorities-pakis' started on with their usual. . . 'fuck the cow-worshipping urine-drinking hindus' (im sure you have heard this before) . . . Writing verses after verses from Quran Kareem of how IMPERATIVE it is upon Pakis to wipe off India and save the Muslims. . .

Tell me. . .

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

Dyu really think this happened? ? ?
firstly, the person wrote this in impeccable English. . . Speaks of his standard of education. . . Now how many poor indians can talk in English fluently? ? ?
next. . . He was a 17 year old boy. . . Couldn he do anything? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I mean cmon . . . This is India. . Not the sahara desert. . . Does he not know where to go? ? ? All he needed to do was tell it to the media. . . The entire police department would have crashed. . . Or simply tell it in the mosque. . Anything. . . What was that pimp of a son doing? ? Selling his mother and sister to kaafirs ? ?
and what bout the gr8. . . Super gr8 ladies in faith? ? ? You are a Muslim. . . Tell me. . . If you are a man, would you want your women to do this? ? If you are a woman would you do this? ? ?
Which Muslim will sell honor for life? ? ? Only the worst of Muslims. . . The most pathetic suckers among the Muslims. . . Is this becoming of a Muslim? ?
there were TWO indian muslims who posted in that site. . . Both refusing to believe in the story. . . they were labelled as 'fake profiles' People who were actually 'RSS' workers. . . In short the same 'kiraye ke musalman' theory. . .
then there was ONE paki who dared to ask if the story was genuine. . . And oh oh oh. . . What a reaction he got. . . Tellin him that he is supportin the kaafirs against Muslims. . . Of course like any normal person, he too got scared. . . Changed ways and replied with. . . Yes, may those people burn in hell. . .
i can only say one thing. . . Yes those people should burn in hell. . . Along with those sluts and their pimp son. . . All of them together.

this is one of the many INJUSTICES i have heard against Indians. . .
so lets not go into fake stories. . .

and ya i know no Muslim in his wildest imagination will say anything against The Virgin or her son. . . Never. . .


but know what my brother/sister ? I cant even imagine a Muslim killing an innocent person. . . Now, tell me that Muslims dont kill any innocent one. . .
when you are talkin of money and power. . . Any sucker can say anything. . .

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

"you being . . . . . . Indian newspaper"

put very beautifully, i totally totally agree. . . .
and that is precisely what i would like to tell all the pakis. . . A Muslim being raped in India by Hindus might be the end of the world for a paki. . . As if no muslim has ever raped A hindu in pak . . .
as if no muslim has ever raped a muslim in pak . . .

the problem is that. . . Even when the indian muslims . . . The average indian muslims. . Say that they are fine in India. . . It falls on deaf ears. . .
do a little bit of googlin my dear. . . You will come across sites and forums completely DEDICATED to the plight of Indian Muslims. . . Sites and forums run by Pakis. . . And over there when we the members of the minority for whom Pakistan is NOT the last hope go and tell them to stop the fooling around. . . They start FIGHTING with us . . :D :D . . .
they talk bout the Gujarat riots, the Babri Masjid and blah blah. . . Which are all injustices in itself. . But when compared to all the "Justices" stand to nothing. . . Its funny, enraging and makes you want to 'bajao kanpatti ke neeche' when you are screaming at the top of your voice that "No, Muslims, in general, are not discriminated against in the way that you are portraying" but the only reply you get is "we have to save the Muslims from cow-worshipping urine-drinking Hindus" . . .
when you see people talk shit bout Hindus. . The same Hindus who are so good to me. . It is such a sickening feeling brother/sister. . Gets me all nauseated. . .

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

And yes you are right, i cannot expect pakistan to keep him in jail, in fact , i cant expect pakistan to do anything. . .
yes, no pakistani has ever attacked india, pakistan has never had coz hand in anything goin wrong in India. . .
yes, yes, yes, yes to everything.

and sorry is that a video you have linked? I cant see videos. . If its an article , inshaAllah i will read it. . Not now though. . . Got exams like i wrote in my post.


and is it bout the theory of all this being planned by Hindus? :) :) :)
trust me i too felt that way. . . In fact, shall i tell you what i feel in the core of my heart. . .
i believe that every terror attack is the rss plus pakistan ,not the whole of pakistan. . . But the chunk of people who are at the top. I believe they are together in the crime. . .

i had read another random blogger also say the same thing. . .
and im sure you have heard of the america + osama theory . .
i really feel thats the way it is. . .
in any case, i will look into the article, (if its an article)


to your second comment. . . Well, ya . . Rite. . . Tit for tat. . .
so , who dyu think did the 'tat' ?

and who is doin the 'tit' ? ?

again, lets not get into that. . .

the only thing that i would tell you at the end is that. . . And not just you i mean every non-Indian Muslim on this planet. . . That when an Indian Muslim tells you that he/she is HAPPY in india. . . That no one is troubling him/her . .
Learn to respect them. . .
because. . . At the end of the day, it does not matter what YOU think bout India, but what WE think. If after all this you still want to go on. . .With 'oh the poor muslims of india' . . . Go on. . .
we too will go on . . .
yes, i believe that a paki hindu is not doin well. . . But if tomorrow i meet one on the net, who says me that he is happy. . . I WONT and i swear upon HIM whom i worship. . . I WONT argue with him saying that . . Nai nai . . You Are troubled. . .You are killed by the Pakis. . . Accept it. . . You are a downtrodden lot. . .
i wont do it inshaAllah. . .
coz i dont have to justify the 'creation' of india. . .
coz i dont enjoy blamin the pakis for their internal matters
coz i am not you.

HRH said...

Good morning Pakistan is a 'live' show which runs 5 days a week, and 'NO' they never get such calls or in fact any other channel as well, that was for the first time.
What I didn't believe in the Hazrat Maryum story is when this thing comes out in public, no one would allow that Muslim guy to stay alive in Pakistan. In Pakistan in fact in every Muslim country they'll watch every crappy thing but when it comes to Islam, they get very hyper.
I never said all minorities are unhappy in India, if you read my post clearly I have said 'Yes there are some who are happy being Indians'. I live in ME and I have a lot of interactions with Indians of every religion.

HRH said...

And I have even written on 'Pakistani' forums where Indians come and say 'look at the plight of 'Pakistani Hindus' and say how there is this article that an Indian journalist wrote and a pakistani hindu told him that he regrets his ancestors chose to live in Pakistan. So I told them even I can show you a lot of articles and people like that and told them to be realistic there are people in every country who dislike there own country. I have met Americans who HATE there country to death and say how ashamed they are of being Americans.
Than there was a talk about Islam where a Hindu wrote he didn't find anything convincing in Islam, so I told him to visit Dr.Zakir Naik's site, and an Indian popped up and said 'Do you know Zakir Naik is proud to be an Indian it is opposite to the propaganda played by Pakistanis' and so I replied by saying 'He must be good for him', and showed him an article where a Pakistani hindu said on the occasion of raksha bandhan 'there is no raksha bandhan without Pakistan' and told him 'isn't this opposite to the propaganda played by Indians'. At the end he says 'Ok but you can never be a secular country like India because you are an Islamic republic' and so I said 'Yes we can never be, but the way Pakistani Hindus have progressed in Pakistan it's an achievement for the whole of Pakistan.' After this he always has 'healthy' conversations with everyone and in fact if any Indian talks crap, he replies by saying 'Ignore him/her there are bunch of losers in every country.' So it's good! =)
Regarding some Pakistanis not believing Indian Muslims saying there are happy on the net is because 'some' even make fake names, I have read myself where a person said 'I am very happy in India and I am a Muslim and I hate Pakistan and we will take back our part which is Pakistan' and said a lot crappy things regarding Pakistan, to which the admin replied by saying 'that is why your e-mail address id is Rahul kash'. Once even a person wrote a Muslim name and said crappy things regarding Astagfirullah Allah swt! I have even seen "sites" made by Indians about 'terrorism' problem in Pakistan, and calling it a failure.
The problem with Pakistanis and Indians is the interaction, I live in ME and interact with all sorts of Indians, so I can see a broader view of them. When a Pakistani only sees the plight of Indian muslims thats the FULL STOP. And when an Indian only sees the plight of 'Pakistani hindus' thats the full stop.
They have pre conceived notions about everything.
I have a lot of Indian friends and they never complain about the creation of Pakistan, they say it's good you guys have your own country, and always say we pray things get better in Pakistan, this is the opposite of what most Indians say residing in India. WHY? Because there is no interaction, the ONLY they have is of Pakistanis cursin them and they cursing Pakistanis.

HRH said...

What Indians should understand is even though u don;t like Pakistan, please don't question it's existence this way you are insulting the millions of people who gave there life up for Pakistan especially Muhammad Ali Jinnah. Like you can't see anyone insulting gandhi even we can't see anyone saying anything -ve about Muhammad ali Jinnah.

Pakistanis are active in India, and India is Pakistan, We need to STOP that. We are doing EXACTLY what the west wants us to do. Har 2 country ko apas mein larwatay rehtay hain aur khudi progress kartay rehaty hain!

It's 61 years for God's sake... even when 2 dogs who hate each other are kept at the same place even they stop fighting after some time, we have gotten even worse thn animals. Focus on 'real' issues and get over the partition.

Regards!

PS:I'm a girl

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

'first time' . . Wow then. . . There are not as many bad ass muslims in india as i thot there wud be.

ya. . Read your comment. . Did you read mine? I have focussed it entirely on the people who dont cease their 'indian muslims are in a pathetic condition' chant.


yes, of course, there definitely ARE fake people on both sides of the bother. . You gave me a lot of examples where you spoke on paki forums defending pak . . What makes you think that in my sane mind i will defend pak ? ? ? ? ? ?

and bout fake ids . . . :) :) go to the site of PKKH and click on the various 'indian' links. :) :) you will learn a lot bout the favourite hobby of pakis. . . And this is just one of the sites. . .
so tellin me . . Bout a fake rahul is of no consequence. .
coz you see i aint living in the ME . . . I dont need 'friends' to learn bout india. . . I know it first hand. .
my own father is a big time pak hater . . Now , you most definitely have not been reading my blog. . Or you'e have known, how mild i am to pak. . Considerin the family that i have. . Newaz. . This shudn be of any matter to anyone. .
just mentioned. . . What rahul did was really stupid. . Coz you dont need hindus to make fake profiles for that. . :) there are enuf and more of indian muslims to speak with their real identities.

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

And please dont tell me bout the indian friends who dont mind the creation of pakistan.
you will find a million people who do just that. . They have to live with you so muh ke samne all goody good. .
and yes-what you say is very true. . We live in India. . And this is our view. . And i think THIS is the view that matters. Not the view of people who serve another country.

no, i aint against people workin abroad. Its only that since these people make a lot of compromises, they end up compromising on many things. So their views are not the views i really care much bout. .

people can differ sister. . They can. This is the way i am. Maybe you dont like it. Whatever.

And btw . . I dont curse pakistan. I wish pakistan good luck. I am the only one in my entire family, and the only one among all my Muslim friends who ever speaks FOR pakistan when pakistan bashing is goin on. I give myself brownie points for that.
but i see no reason why i shud let pakistanis decide for themselves whether 'almas' is happy or not. . I see no reason to 'support' pak in their unstoppable lament over the way India treats her Muslims. . The same India jaha har savere mandir ki ghanti bajne se pehle fiza mein 'AllahuAkbar' ka pukar gunjta hai. .
its kind of like. . In cricket. . Any country vs pak. . I support pak . . But i see no reason to support pak when they are playing against india.
and like you wrote of the many people who are all shit bout pak. . I have written bout the many who are all shit bout india. .
and coincidently . . Am an indian. . So its only natural that the latter will irk me more than the former.

If you scroll down my page, you will see 'three things you thank Allah for' where i speak of a muslim thanking Allah for india. Then the post 'you hate india? ?' . I dont think i need to tell you what cud have got me pissed off . . And on top of that the 'bollywood' hits i get from all countries other than india. Plus the 'muslims hate india' i got today. . . Well if such a lot happens in so short a time, i think i have the full right to get mad at pakistan in my own blog.

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

Good that you got over partition.:):) Many have got over partition here too.:) :)
but many havent . . Coz again. . Coincidently. . . It was India who was divided. Not pak.
and yes, again . . Coincidently. . .the division was on the basis of Islam, my religion.
so, for us. . We cant get over partition. We can only learn to live with it. And dont worry i have learnt to live with it already.:)

you be on your own. And let me be on my own.
i dont give a cent to whether paki hindus are progressing, regressing, or whatever. Please stop giving your cents to us.

i am totally against indians who talk bout the talibs problem in pak. . Or the waziristan issue.
then. . Very obviously i wud hate a paki writing whole sites bout indian internal affairs. Not to forget, I AM AN INDIAN.

:) :) ya. :) we are worse than animals. :) fine i will stop barking. . . . If only someone could keep the other dog from biting my tail, i would find it easier to stop barking. . . Otherwise you know. . All living creatures have reflex mechanisms to react during a painful stimulus.

newaz. . .
may pak be a happy country.
may India be the happiest. :)

p.s- and just in case you didnt know, india is divided over Gandhi. i dont believe in his principles, but i do respect the man. There are a lot many indians who overtly disrespect him.. :/

HRH said...
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HRH said...

what I meant about Indian friends not minding Pak it is they don't get so aggressive like, 'some' who say Pak is our part we'll get it back and such sorta stuff.I mean at times frndz will say 'eik hotay' but thats it. Not keep on whining about it's creation.

What I forgot to mention as well is yeah u r right at times Pak people don't believe when an Indian Muslim says they are happy, it is same the both way coz I saw a video of a Pakistani Hindu when there was alot of talk about war with Pakistan after 26/11, and he said that both countries have prob and we must work together so so and at the end he says if you guys do want war than he threatens India. And of course some people couldn't say he was faking to be a Hindu coz it was a video so they resorted to cursing him and sayin how taliban would kill him.

btw I have been to PKKH, and I myself have seen Indian Hindus 'insulting Islam' and calling it a stone age/backward religion, calling us pork eaters or even talking about virgins in heaven and these comments were deleted by the mod, I know this because the 2nd day the comments weren't visible and these comments have been made 'before' that 'circumcision' of the terrorists thread which started all the religion stuff.

Regards=)

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

Ya indian hindus insult muslims. . .Paki muslims insult hindus. Big deal. Every attempt at reconciliation shud be from both side. . . I am totally against hindu hackers. . . They hack almost everything they come across. . . I was a member of a community . . . Paki community i mean . . . Totally harmless. . . But then these people came and hackd it. . .
such a sick thing to do. . .
but, can i blame them? ? Coz there was yet another community, i dont know which one, but one fine day i see that i am a member of an Islamic Republic Of Pakistan community. And the contents were full of Quranic verses. . . Now, me being a Muslim, Alhamdulillah, . . The 'content' was not a problem. But, you see to the others, the Hindus, it was a 'religious attack'. I dont know if the comm ever got back to what it used to be, i mean i unjoined it. . . And the paki comm i spoke of. . . That has somehow been restored, i dont know if it was re-hacked by a muslim, or those boys gave it back. . .
but whatever. . .
its sick, both ways.
we can never be the best of friends. . . So i think we shud both at least not try to finger the other.
the one and the only time i had blogged bout any 'internal' paki matter was bout the gal flogging. . . And i had spoken only from an islam view. . I hadn interfered with paki laws or whatever.

and yes, hindus are doing a lot of things. . . But where were the false videos earlier? Where were so many haters earlier? Times are changing coz we are not changing. I have read hindu pages. . . Where they are imploring their community to fight us. . . Begging them, telling them how Injustices are meted out to them. .
the first moment you will get enraged. But if you think, you will realize how true it is. Only yesterday, i read somewhere that 'Indian hindus are bothered bout the indian muslim minority, pakistani govt is bothered bout the indian muslim minority, the world leaders are bothered bout the indian muslim minority. . . Why doesnt anyone bother bout the hindus? The hindu minorities?'
that is wrong. So wrong. The hindus are totally pissed off by us. . . And i personally think , for good reason. . .

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

And ya PKHH is full of false links. . . You may be led to your own yahoo inbox. . . To you tube adult video pages. . . And what not.
and then of course there are the 'no link' writers.
any site shud be read minus the no links and false links.
coz if you dont credibility . . . It all means nothing.
and ya. . . I dont say that there are no such sites by hindus.
i mean cmon. . . Islam is hated like nothing else. . . :) so obviously there are hate islam sites. . . By hindus, by christians, by apostates. . . By everyone. .
i wasnt talkin bout that.
i have only fumed over people who turn a deaf ear to me. Who want to live in their own world where india is ill treating her muslims.
if an indian speaks to a Paki HINDU who claims to be happy and then doesnt agree it will be as much of a shit as people not believing me to be happy.
but, such interactions are very uncommon. . . Very very uncommon.
but an indian muslim meeting a paki is relatively very common. We are more in number than the paki hindus. . . So. . . The number of times you see a paki 'disbelieving' an indian muslim will be way more than an indian 'disbelieving' a paki hindu, in fact i, personally, have never seen it happen. . . I repeat i mean a pakistani hindu. . . Not someone like you coming and tellin that pakistani hindus are happy. . . That happens all the time.
i aint sayin that i am bothered. . . I seriously cudn care less for them.
what i am sayin is that, when 'I' speak for myself 'I' want to be heard. If you dont hear me, that WILL irk me. . . Irrespective of what is happening in the world.
at that time, i wont explain to myself that oh there must be fake things happening here. . And then there. . And then somewhere. .
at that point of time . . . I will think of myself.
like when someone calls you a terrorist. . . You will reply fatak se That you are not. . . Will you then sit down to think that oh since there are muslims killing people mercilessly everywhere, this person is sayin that to me. . .
newaz. .
cant say bout others. .
but me. . . I dont stand my integrity being questioned.

and so. . . I get mad. . . Thats all.

HRH said...

Lol.. . thn again both ways coz recently India was bothered by sikh community in Pakistan! So for a change people are even worried about sikhs other than Muslims. =D

True that, both should stop messing around, coz on the day of Judgment Allah swt won't ask us how many hindus we killed or cursed, but how many we spoke good with even though they spoke ill about us.

And we should even stop complaining about what happened in the past like the partition etc as Allah swt says 'Kaissay na hota jab Main yeh chahta tha' and as a hadith says do not say: ‘If I had taken this or that step, it would have resulted into such and such,’ but say only: ‘Allah so determined and did as He willed.’ The word ‘if’ opens the gates of satanic conduct.”

May Allah swt bless us!

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

Lolz. . . Ya. . . . 'kaisay na hota jab mein chahta tha'
apply the rule to one. . . Apply the rule to all. . .
:) :) :) :) :) i dont apply Allah's laws selectively. I am a strong believer of destiny. I never say something cud have been changed. . . The partition had to happen. Kaisay na hota jab mein chahta tha. The mosque had to be demolished. Kaisay na hota jab main chahta tha. Muslims had to kill the many they have killed. Kaisay na hota jab main chahta tha. Muslims had to BE killed at the hands of others. Kaisay na hota jab main chahta tha.
i dont question either of the decrees of Allah.
jo hona tha wahi hua hai. . .
bas ek taraf mat dekho. . . Jo log bolte hai ki us log par ungli mat uthao kyuki Allah ka marzi hai. . . To un log ko bolo ki apna ungli bhi apne paas rakho. .. . After all . . Allah ka marzi hai yaar. . .

and hey hey. . . I dont complain bout the partition. I BLAME the partition. I am not one of those who says ki 'ek hote to achha hota' . . . I never say that crap.
the nationality 'indian' is for people with an indian heart. Not for others. Read my post. . . I wrote . . .
You got the country. Keep it safe. We arent asking it back. Keep it safe. And keep to yourself.
you dont bother me, i dont bother you.

Allah bless you too.

rakesh.112887 said...

An indian muslim is trying to convince that muslim in india are happy, and a pakistani muslim is trying to convince that pakistani hindus are happy in pakistan.

this is the difference between India and pakistan.

HRH said...

@rakesh
I never tried to convince that Pakistani Hindus are happy in Pakistan, there must be some who are not...God knows better.

There are many people regardless of religion who are not happy in there own country!

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

HRH
a sincere request . . please ignore him. . . Its a fake id. . The number you see in that id is MY birth date . . This id is an exclusively 'hate' id. . .
whatever he replies to your comment, i request you to ignore it. Rest . . Its up to you.
tc

HRH said...

Thx for telling me Almas!

Hope u doing good with the grace of Allah swt! =)

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

Hey . . My pleasure :)
and ya Alhamdulillah, me doin gr8 :) :), minus the usual troughs of life, weight gain, pimples and screwing exams . . . .
Hope you doin well too. And congrats for the cup . . . Grrrr ;)
tc

HRH said...

Lolzz...yeah the weight gain, skin probs and that sorta always remains in a females life! =(

Yeah honestly I never thought we would win the cup, it was soo good to see people smiling again in Pak after a LONG time Alhamdullilah ... And I really thought India would ATLEAST reach the semi finals...but hey you guys still were the first ones to win the title so it ain't that bad! =D

TC
Allah Hafiz

JaLpArI - tHe MeRmAiD said...

:( :( :( ab to isi tasalli ke sath jeena hai :( :( :(

newaz :)tc
Allah hafiz

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